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« on: January 05, 2012, 03:40:11 AM »

Hi, I am seeing if anyone has a interest in purchasing titainium axles and swingarm pivot bolts? These would be custom made using your old parts for dimensional purposes. Your parts would be returned with new parts. No pricing as of yet.
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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2012, 03:55:31 AM »

Depends on price, but would be interested, anything to save ME from having to exercise to lose weight  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2012, 08:18:50 AM »

We have offered that service now for over 3 years , but the interest ( just talking VMX use ) is minimal . http://www.suspensionshop.org/yonsin-nuts-and-bolts.php. We also made brake discs .
Grade 6 Rear axles are only $75 but I think it is the legality that is the problem . It is clearly prohibited in the rule book . The reason for that is , Titanium changes its structure during use , and there fore  has limited time of use before it can brake . 
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2012, 12:38:16 AM »

Hi Walter, so if I send you an axle from my MX bike (a really basic axle) it can be made in Titanium for about $75.00, that is good value.

I am interested in the comment you make about Titanium, I had a look in the 2012 MA rulebook and could only see "not allowed" for frames axles etc for Roadracing or Speedway, but no mention of MX, I wonder why.

As to "Titanium changing its structure during use and therefore has limited time of use before it can break", I'm not too sure about that, the following is the Wiki entry on the stuff and it looks pretty good:

Titanium alloys are metallic materials which contain a mixture of titanium and other chemical elements. Such alloys have very high tensile strength and toughness (even at extreme temperatures), light weight, extraordinary corrosion resistance, and ability to withstand extreme temperatures. However, the high cost of both raw materials and processing limit their use to military applications, aircraft, spacecraft, medical devices, connecting rods on expensive sports cars and some premium sports equipment and consumer electronics. Auto manufacturers Porsche and Ferrari also use titanium alloys in engine components due to its durable properties in these high stress engine environments.

    Grade 5, also known as Ti6Al4V, Ti-6Al-4V or Ti 6-4, is the most commonly used alloy. It has a chemical composition of 6% aluminium, 4% vanadium, 0.25% (maximum) iron, 0.2% (maximum) oxygen, and the remainder titanium.[5] It is significantly stronger than commercially pure titanium while having the same stiffness and thermal properties (excluding thermal conductivity, which is about 60% lower in Grade 5 Ti than in CP Ti).[6] Among its many advantages, it is heat treatable. This grade is an excellent combination of strength, corrosion resistance, weld and fabricability. Consequently, it is used extensively in Aerospace, Medical, Marine, and Chemical Processing[7] E.g.internal combustion engine connecting rods and surgical implants.[5] Generally, it is used in applications up to 400 degrees Celsius.

    It has a density of roughly 4420 kg/m3, Young's modulus of 110 GPa, and tensile strength of 1000 MPa.[8] By comparison, annealed type 316 stainless steel has a density of 8000 kg/m3, modulus of 193 GPa, and tensile strength of only 570 MPa.[9] And tempered 6061 aluminium alloy has 2700 kg/m3, 69 GPa, and 310 MPa, respectively.[10]

    Grade 6 contains 5% aluminium and 2.5% tin. It is also known as Ti-5Al-2.5Sn. This alloy is used in airframes and jet engines due to its good weldability, stability and strength at elevated temperatures.[citation needed]

And from Azom.com

Automotive Industry

In the automotive industry, uses are being developed for titanium in the automotive/motorcycle after markets and racing market. Engine parts such as connecting rods, wrist pins, valves, valve retainers and springs, rocker arms and camshafts, to name a few, lend themselves to fabrication from titanium, because it is durable, strong, lightweight and resists heat and corrosion. While titanium initially may be more expensive for these applications, designs that exploit its unique characteristics yield parts that more than pay for themselves with better performance and a longer life.

If there are any Engineers out there with some constructive or critical comment feel free to chime in, it is something that interests me, because if Walter can save me 50% from the weight of my axles for $75 that's a much better deal than Jenny Craig would offer me for my gut removal  Grin




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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2012, 07:19:19 AM »

If you need one, we can make one , at the moment we have raw material  17 mm and 20 mm .  We can add other sizes quickly, if demand is there . With the rapid drop in World demand , the lead times have been reduced dramatically . As far as legality goes , you would have to clear that with MA  . We have tested and had no failure yet . Coming to think of it , would  it   be better for legal reasons ,that we only supply the raw material ?
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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2012, 07:53:11 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2012, 11:13:02 AM »

Yes i would like a swingarm bolt for my YZ80H which is proving hard to find.

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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2012, 04:02:16 PM »

just finished the drawings for new coach type bolts with large flat tapered  heads  in M 5 , M6 and M8 version  . Ideal for fitting mud guards , aircleaner boxes  etc . Should have stock by mid February .
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2012, 05:31:18 PM »

Actually I need some sidecar  shock bolts for myself  in that shape  M 10 x 45 . Anyone else ?
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2012, 09:39:38 PM »

Mushroom heads  M10 x 45 ( shock bolts ) ready now .
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2012, 09:51:08 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2012, 10:07:48 PM »

Sorry I haven't uploaded the new bolts yet , sorry . Just go to http://www.suspensionshop.org/yonsin-nuts-and-bolts.php  ,just  look at the M8 mushroom bolts . The M10 look very similar , they are only a little  bit bigger ( 2 mm to be exact ) except the 10 mm torque specifications apply to them .
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2012, 06:41:30 AM »

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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2012, 09:53:10 AM »

Hey Ji! come on down!
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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2012, 05:35:02 PM »

Axel material and mushroom bolts have arrived , ready to go . Cool
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