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Offline Tim754

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Vintage/Classic Motocross or NOT
« on: October 24, 2008, 06:25:42 PM »
Tim Derrick aka Tim754 Here.
I am going to state my views on this the most contentious issue of all. For both solo and sidecars.
If it is made prior to the first of January 1975 it is Vintage/Classic head in the sand. golden age, VMX This will not change in my eyes with the passage of time.
After that like pre78 sorry ,pre80 pre85 pre90 etc  IT IS NOT. Call it something else as some do already. 
If I could work out how have a poll again I would have had Agree or Do Not Agree as the two responses. Now please respond agree or don't agree if you like but try leaving your real name and how about NO long wordy reasons why. ;)
 
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Re: Vintage/Classic Motocross or NOT
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2008, 06:46:54 PM »
agree'd ;) (with reservations as to what vintage really means) my bikes = old bikes and classics maaaaaaybe, but in my eyes they're not vintage  ;)

oops..late edit. Chris Wright aka Doc

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Re: Vintage/Classic Motocross or NOT
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2008, 06:47:35 PM »
Loved the sixty's cause I was born.
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AGREE
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Re: Vintage/Classic Motocross or NOT
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2008, 07:00:36 PM »
Agreed 100%  Walter Preisig

YSS 100% disagred , the more shocks the merrier  :D. Jokes aside there is a big gap between the two eras.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2008, 07:51:46 PM by YSS »

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Re: Vintage/Classic Motocross or NOT
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2008, 07:02:46 PM »
Agree 100%  ;D Garry A Bailey jimson or shithead what ever makes you happy  :-*
Just a balless freak having a go

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Re: Vintage/Classic Motocross or NOT
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2008, 07:11:25 PM »
Sorry Guys, I disagree
The word "Vintage" to me means something from the 40's or beyond. We have all used the word to mean what we want it to mean and now it seems we don't like it being stretched to suit something else ???
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Re: Vintage/Classic Motocross or NOT
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2008, 07:13:15 PM »
DON'T AGREE!!, that would mean half of the bikes designated as 1975 models would comply (being built in 1974) and the other half built in the following year would not, how would you determine if a 1975 YZ250B was built in 1974 or 1975, you couldn't.

Fair enough if they were designated year model bikes, but "being made" before january 1 1975 is just plain confusing and impossible to police.

as far as "Vintage" is  concerned, you can control the termonology about as much as you can control time,  can you control the "Vintage" of wine?

So what would we call this website??, oldmxbikesfrombefore1990.com?



We also have the right to privicy

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Re: Vintage/Classic Motocross or NOT
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2008, 07:24:12 PM »
short travel twin shock,    long travel twin shock and then everything else

motors control the time

pre 75 is classic, its like music or cars , each has a style period you can classify  :)

what was the question ?

TImbo to do a pole go to the section and next to where you push the new topic/thread the next button over say "new poll" just push that and away you go
« Last Edit: October 24, 2008, 07:36:08 PM by Freakshow »
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Re: Vintage/Classic Motocross or NOT
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2008, 07:36:06 PM »
Tim     Pm sent 
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Re: Vintage/Classic Motocross or NOT
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2008, 07:39:47 PM »
Agree and disagree.

If we're arguing over the word "vintage", then I'm happy to agree - but I don't really give a rat's either.

If we're arguing over whether a bike made after 1974 has a place in the broader "old dirt bike scene" (and the assertion is that they don't), then I definitely disagree.

Nathan Senior, 1976 model.
« Last Edit: October 24, 2008, 08:26:52 PM by Nathan S »
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Re: Vintage/Classic Motocross or NOT
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2008, 07:45:26 PM »
E74 Your privacy is respected as I did write "your name if you like" .Glad someone did the old hair split about designated 1975 models too .  My mistake not immediately nailing those bikes out of the era too.  Regarding the words Vintage and Classic maybe better we drop them immediately from Historic Scrambles and Motocross Racing and Presentation.
Oldfart PM read  Maybe you could post it here ?  (your privacy respected) and my reply too ,as it is very relevant to the thread, Tim
« Last Edit: October 24, 2008, 07:55:25 PM by Tim754 »
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Re: Vintage/Classic Motocross or NOT
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2008, 07:52:57 PM »
Any chance you could all get together & agree how to fix the World Economic Crisis problem  ??? ie the drought, poverty, unemployment, global warming, frozen self funded retirement funds, drugs and this annoying pimple that keeps coming up on my arse  ??? Maybe you should all just enjoy your old bikes & dont get too wrapped up in the viscious world of VMX  :o

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Re: Vintage/Classic Motocross or NOT
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2008, 07:56:42 PM »
Make me boss of the world...I fix all 8) Tim
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Re: Vintage/Classic Motocross or NOT
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2008, 08:55:12 PM »
 :D I think calling our bikes 'vintage' or 'classic' makes us feel better..if not, Take Bex BEX! ;) Recommended by 9 out of 10 Doctors before, after and during vintage riding  ;D
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Re: Vintage/Classic Motocross or NOT
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2008, 10:43:38 PM »
Sorry if I sounded abrupt, I have been involved with motocross, enduro's and everything inbetween for the last 30 odd years and the very thing that f*cks the whole thing up is politics,.. I have seen it too many times, and I am just not interested in listening to it anymore.
 
So i'm with you two shocks, I just want to enjoy my old bikes and if I get disqualified for some scruitinazi bullshit I really don't give a shit and I will certainly voice it  :o